Phillies Have Earned Our Patience, Give Them Time
The Phillies have been very good this year. They have the 2nd best record in baseball, just a half-game behind the Yankees who played 1 more game than them. They rank near the top of the league in nearly every category.
Their starting rotation is not only the best in baseball, they go deeper into games than any other rotation. Their bullpen has been among the best in baseball after a shaky first week. They are also 1st in the league at 313 runs.
But no team is perfect. Like any team in any sport, they have a few flaws. Taijuan Walker has been bad. Their OF is not giving them consistent production. Those are two issues they need to eventually address. But unlike most teams, they have earned the right to be patient.
The Phillies Don’t Need To Rush
If Taijuan Walker continues to pitch to an ERA over 6, he needs to be pulled. That may not happen this week. Ranger Suarez took a hit off his pitching hand and might miss a start or two. Meaning the guy who would have replaced Walker, Spencer Turnbull, will instead fill in for Ranger.
So we might see Walker for 1 or 2 more starts at least. Fans likely won’t be happy to see him, especially if he continues to struggle. But given how well they have played, try to have some patience. Even if he keeps pitching once Ranger Suarez is back, have patience.
Does Spencer Turnbull deserve to be in the rotation over him? Probably. But they also need to protect Turnbull. He has thrown 80 combined innings in the last 3 seasons. He is already at 44 in 2024. they cant just keep putting them out there for 20 more starts, and expect his arm to hold up.
We are going to see more Taijuan Walker. Getting angry about that is pointless. This is a very good team. if your biggest issue is your 5th best starter, you don’t have a real problem.
The same goes for the outfield. I would like to see them add a good OF bat before the deadline. But despite their OF not giving them production, and despite not having trea Turner, they are still putting up more runs than any other team.
Have Some Patience
We are not a patient fanbase. The Phillies have earned our patience though. Their few flaws are not as bad as the flaws on the 29 other teams. Even if Walker keeps pitching, or their OF keeps struggling at the plate, they will be fine for now.
Give them time. They don’t need to rush to make any moves or big decisions. Walker won’t be pitching in the playoffs. Is him making 6 or 7 more starts and going to kill them? No.
For the first time in our history as a fanbase, let’s just relax, and see what happens. We do not need to be our usual impatient selves. The Phillies deserve our patience.
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11 Best Trades in Philadelphia Phillies History
11. The Hefty Lefty
Phillies Get: Jose Alvarado
Los Angeles Dodgers Get: Garrett Cleavinger (from Phillies)
Tampa Bay Rays Get: Dillon Paulson, player to be named later (from Dodgers)Philadelphia teams seem like they’re always the ones who give up too soon and trade talented young players who haven’t reached their full potential. Jose Alvarado reversed the trend.
The Hefty Lefty accepted a demotion to the minors in 2022 and recreated a power sinker. He returned to the majors and stepped into one of the most important high-leverage roles on the way to a World Series appearance in 2022.
He’s now one of the strongest power arms at the back of the Phillies bullpen.
Garrett Cleavinger still has the potential to match Alvarado, but the Phillies got the best immediate return from the trade.
10. An Apology From The White Sox?
July 27, 2007
Phillies Get: Tadahito Iguchi
Chicago White Sox Get: Michael DubeeWhat did the Phillies send to the White Sox for a lineup regular with .278 and .281 respective batting averages in his only two full MLB seasons? Michael Dubee, pitching coach Rich Dubee’s son, a Single A pitcher who ultimately never made it to the major leagues.
Why would Chicago GM Kenny Williams trade Tadahito Iguchi? It makes a little more sense in the big picture. The Phillies also acquired Freddy Garcia from the White Sox the previous offseason. Landing an expected ace was a big part of the reason Jimmy Rollins spoke so confidently about “the team to beat” in the NL East.
It turned out to be one of the worst trades in franchise history. Garcia pitched 11 games in his only season in Philadelphia. The injuries that kept him off the mound very well might’ve existed before the trade.
“That was a gift to Pat Gillick because Kenny Williams felt bad for (trading) Freddy Garcia (to the Phillies)… It was like two baseball men doing each other a solid.” -Jim Salisbury
According to Gillick’s former assistant GM, The Phillies essentially picked up Tadahito Iguchi as an apology from Kenny Williams and the White Sox.
“I’ve got to believe that they’re had to be something to that (granting the favor) because there was some question about the medicals on Freddy that we checked out, but (the information was) maybe a little shady.” –Ruben Amaro Jr.
Iguchi hit .304 in 45 games to finish the 2007 season. He played an everyday role for the first month while Utley sat. He later moved into a bench role after the everyday second baseman reentered the lineup.
Iguchi famously slid into home on Utley’s walk-off hit in an August thriller against the New York Mets that helped the historic NL East comeback.
9. A 43-Year-Old From Waivers
August 19, 2006
Phillies Get: Jamie Moyer
Seattle Mariners Get: Andy Baldwin, Andrew BarbThe MLB Trade Deadline used to allow for waiver deals during the month of August. Before the overdue rule change, Pat Gillick landed Jamie Moyer for two minor leaguers in August 2006.
Moyer never had head-turning velocity in his previous 20 seasons of major league experience, so his age didn’t factor into his ability to pitch much. He began his stint in Philadelphia at age 43 and remarkably made 118 starts in five seasons.
The local kid from Souderton and Saint Joseph’s University became one of the feel-good stories of the 2008 World Series. Neither Baldwin nor Barb ever played in an MLB game.
8. Saying Goodbye To A "Can't Miss" Prospect
February 7, 2019
Phillies Get: J.T. Realmuto
Miami Marlins Get: Sixto Sanchez, Jorge Alfaro, Will Stewart, international bonus slot moneyThe class of free agents entering the 2019 season forced a domino effect on the entire sport. The Phillies were desperate for a superstar to reestablish themselves as a contender after a long period of dormancy.
They lured Bryce Harper by trading for the best catcher in baseball. Matt Klentak sent stud pitching prospect Sixto Sanchez to the Marlins for J.T. Realmuto.
Realmuto became a key piece in the miracle ride to the World Series in 2022. Sixto Sanchez had drawn comparisons to Pedro Martinez, but injuries derailed the early years of his career.
Stewart never made it to the major leagues. Alfaro spent some serviceable seasons with the Marlins, but he never approached the caliber of Realmuto.
7. Clifton Phifer Lee (Part I)
July 29, 2009
Phillies Get: Cliff Lee, Ben Francisco
Cleveland Indians Get: Carlos Carrasco, Lou Marson, Jason Knapp, Jason DonaldThe chatter leading up to the MLB Trade Deadline in 2009 focused on Roy Halladay. Could the Phillies land the best pitcher in the game and repeat with another World Series?
Instead, Ruben Amaro Jr. traded for Cliff Lee. The nonchalant Arkansas native looked effortless and unaffected by the pressure of the MLB postseason during a run to the World Series in 2009.
The rest of the starting rotation struggled to make it through a deep playoff run. Lee won both of his starts against the New York Yankees, but the Phillies lost in six games.
The Phillies missed out on a long career from Carlos Carrasco. However, it’s all relative to the risk of aggressive trade deadline spending in a window of World Series contention.
Although the trade only kept Lee in Philadelphia for a few months, the instant dynamic with the fan base played a major factor in convincing him to sign with the Phillies before the 2011 season.
6. A New Uniform Can Change An Attitude
June 18, 1989
Phillies Get: Lenny Dykstra, Roger McDowell, Tom Edens
New York Mets Get: Juan SamuelIt’s funny how a new uniform can change the fans’ attitude about a guy. Phillies fans hated Lenny Dykstra as a member of the Mets. Nails was the grinder who got under opponents’ skin on the way to a World Series in 1986.
His gritty style transferred over with a division rival after the deal. Dykstra hit over .300 in three of his first four seasons in Philadelphia, and he became a major catalyst for the 1993 National League champs.
Roger McDowell also spent time at the back end of the bullpen in parts of three seasons. He saved 44 games for the Phillies before they traded him again in 1991.
Juan Samuel had some good seasons with the Phillies in the early part of his career. However, he only played 86 games for the Mets after the trade before moving to five other MLB teams to finish his career.
5. Unknown Youngster Bobby Abreu
November 18, 1997
Phillies Get: Bobby Abreu
Tampa Bay Devil Rays Get: Kevin StockerThe Phillies swindled the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in 1997 when they acquired 23-year-old Bobby Abreu after just 64 career major league games.
Say what you want about Abreu. His demeanor never clicked in Philadelphia. He wasn’t a great outfielder (although he strangely won a Gold Glove in 2005). The decision to trade him for a minimal return in 2006 proved to be addition by subtraction.
Don’t let that make you forget his offensive production.
He sits 11th in Phillies history with 195 home runs and seventh in stolen bases with 254. His outstanding .303/.416/.513 slash line would make modern MLB front offices gush.
Stocker helped the Phillies to the World Series in his rookie season in 1993, but he only played three more MLB seasons after the deal. He hit .237 collectively with the Devil Rays and the Anaheim Angels.
4. The Future Ace
April 2, 1992
Phillies Get: Curt Schilling
Houston Astros Get: Jason GrimsleyThe Baltimore Orioles and the Houston Astros couldn’t unlock Curt Schilling’s talent early in his career. He hit his stride after a deal to the Phillies in 1992.
Schilling established himself at the top of the rotation for the 1993 National League champions. He became the unquestioned ace during the mid and late 1990s, but the fading talent around him ultimately led to his departure.
The Phillies enjoyed the benefits of an excellent talent for nine seasons, but they let him get away to win three World Series in two other uniforms.
Grimsley pitched in the majors for 12 more seasons. He became a respectable journeyman reliever, but his accomplishments pale in comparison to Schilling.
3. A Philadelphia Legend
December 16, 2009
Phillies Get: Roy Halladay, cash
Toronto Blue Jays Get: Kyle Drabek, Michael Taylor, Travis d’ArnaudThe prospect experts loved Kyle Drabek. It seemed daring to deal a top young pitcher with tremendous potential, but Roy Halladay was available.
Ruben Amaro Jr. landed the long-time Blue Jays ace at age 32. Halladay announced his unrelenting mission for dominance with a perfect game less than two months into his Phillies tenure.
He only started 108 regular-season and playoff games in parts of four seasons for Philadelphia. However, two elite seasons in 2010 and 2011 and his frightening competitive spirit put him in franchise folklore.
Drabek never spent a full season in an MLB starting rotation. He demonstrated how uncertain prospect projections can be and the value of aggressive moves for teams with a window for World Series contention.
While d’Arnaud turned into a solid major leaguer, the Phillies will never regret sending him away.
2. Perfection in 2008
November 7, 2007
Phillies Get: Brad Lidge, Eric Bruntlett
Houston Astros Get: Michael Bourn, Geoff Geary, Mike CostanzoA monstrous three-run blast from Albert Pujols in the 2005 NLCS supposedly ruined the psyche of All-Star closer Brad Lidge.
Former Phillies GM Ed Wade dealt Lidge to the Phillies in the deal that catapulted them to their second World Series. Pat Gillick sent back a package centered around Michael Bourn.
Lidge’s glory didn’t last long in Philadelphia. He blew 11 saves in 2009 and never regained a rhythm afterwards.
However, 48 saves in 48 chances had already solidified his place in franchise history. The Phillies wouldn’t have won the World Series in 2008 without Brad Lidge. Eric Bruntlett also played a solid role as a utility man and defensive replacement.
Bourn became an excellent base stealer for the Astros. He stole 61 in 2009, 52 in 2010, and 61 in 2011. He carved out a solid 11-year career.
Geary spent two seasons with the Astros. Costanzo only played 17 career MLB games.
1. Landing Lefty
February 25, 1972
Phillies Get: Steve Carlton
St. Louis Cardinals Get: Rick WiseRick Wise made his first of two MLB All-Star teams in 1971 in the last of his seven seasons in Philadelphia. He’ll never have much association in franchise history for that because fans remember his name as the guy the Phillies traded for Steve Carlton.
Carlton had developed into a 20-game winner early in his career with the Cardinals, but John Quinn stole him in 1972.
Lefty came out fast with a 27-10 record and a 1.97 ERA in his first season with the Phillies. He won the first of his four CY Youngs and laid the groundwork to become the best pitcher in franchise history.
Wise pitched well in two seasons with the Cardinals. He hung around for nine more years in the majors after leaving St. Louis.
The Phillies weren’t worried about what they gave up. What they got back was plenty to keep them happy.
They immortalize Steve Carlton with a statue outside Citizens Bank Park.
