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Ramona Shelburne Reports Joel Embiid Is Not Close To Returning

Sixers fans have been waiting patiently for any news, good or bad, about Joel Embiid. Several weeks ago he went down with a meniscus injury. A few weeks after that,…

INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA - JANUARY 25: Joel Embiid #21of the Philadelphia 76ers during the first half against the Indiana Pacers at Gainbridge Fieldhouse on January 25, 2024 in Indianapolis, Indiana.

INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA – JANUARY 25: Joel Embiid #21of the Philadelphia 76ers during the first half against the Indiana Pacers at Gainbridge Fieldhouse on January 25, 2024 in Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Sixers fans have been waiting patiently for any news, good or bad, about Joel Embiid. Several weeks ago he went down with a meniscus injury. A few weeks after that, he had surgery. We were told he would be evaluated in 4 weeks. But 4 weeks passed, and there was no new news. He talked to the media, said he plans to be back at some point, but there was no timetable. Now thanks to Ramona Shelburne, we have a timetable. On NBA Today, she reported that the Sixers expect him back in the last week of the season.

That does not stray too much from the original 6-8 week timetable from his surgery. He underwent the procedure about 5 weeks ago now. But Sixers fans were likely hoping it would be closer to that 6 weeks, than 8. They wanted to have him back sooner than the final week. Not just so he has more time to ramp up, but because the Sixers badly need him back.

The team has been a disaster without him. Tyrese Maxey is playing as well as he can, but he is not enough. Tobias Harris has been a no-show in many of these games, and the rest of the team just isn't doing enough.

They have managed to stay in the 6 seed. But they are in danger of falling into the play-in range. There is only .5 a game separating them and the Pacers, and only 1 between them and the Heat. They have a little more wiggle room between them and the 9 seed. But anything in the play-in range is playing with fire.

What is good, is that he does still plan to return. If they can keep their head above water, and Joel Embiid can ramp up in time for the playoffs, they still have a chance. But Embiid's injury is still a black cloud over a once-promising season.

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The "Process Era" for the Sixers has been a bit of a mess. They have tried so many running mates for Joel Embiid. First, it was Ben Simmons, and we know how that ended. Then it was James Harden, which went about as well as the Simmons era went. They have also had 3 coaches, 3 GMs, and multiple Teams. But one thing that has changed more than any of those things, has been Joel Embiid's backup.

He has played with over a dozen backups since he made his Sixers debut in the 2016-2017 season. From Nerlens Noel, all the way up to Paul Reed and Mo Bamba this season. They have tried big guys known for their defense. Smaller guys who could maybe score more. They have gone with veterans, and they have gone with young guys. The Sixers have tried so many different answers, and yet you can count on one hand how many of them have actually worked.

And while Paul Reed is playing okay this year, the Embiid-less minutes, and especially the games he is out, continue to be a massive issue for the Sixers. Mo Bamba can't even get on the floor unless Embiid is out. But even if those two have not played well enough, Reed is far from the worst backup center Embiid has played with. But who is?

Here are almost all of the backup centers the Sixers have tried. I didn't count Mike Scott or Ben Simmons. Because even if they played in the "Center" a few times, they were not actual centers. I am sure I missed a few guys who got a small handful of games here and there. But these are the Joel Embiid backups I could recall. All 20 of them.

Here is how I would rank Joel Embiid's backups:

20) Deandre Jordan

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA - APRIL 02: DeAndre Jordan #9 of the Philadelphia 76ers signals after scoring during the fourth quarter against the Charlotte Hornets at Wells Fargo Center on April 02, 2022 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Jordan was clearly over the hill by the time he landed in Philly. But what made his stint here even more frustrating was Doc River's insistence on using him. He was getting cooked every time he stepped onto the floor, but Doc kept throwing him out there.

19) Greg Monroe

TORONTO, ON - MAY 07: Greg Monroe #55 of the Philadelphia 76ers reacts in the first half during Game Five of the second round of the 2019 NBA Playoffs against the Toronto Raptors at Scotiabank Arena on May 7, 2019 in Toronto, Canada.

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Embiid took heat for his performance in the Raptors series in 2018. But you know what their real issue was? The -90 when he was off the floor. Greg Monroe got cooked on defense and offered nothing in terms of offense.

18) Tiago Splitter

NEW YORK, NY - APRIL 12:  Tiago Splitter #47 of the Philadelphia 76ers reacts after a call in the fourth quarter against the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden on April 12, 2017 in New York City.

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How many people remember Splitter being on the Sixers? He played 8 games here in Embiid's rookie season, and then never played in the NBA again. He still goes above Monroe and Jordan because not remembering him at all is better than my memory of Jordan and Monroe actively destroying the Sixers hopes of winning.

17) Willie Cauley-Stein

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA - FEBRUARY 25: Joel Embiid #21 of the Philadelphia 76ers looks to pass over Willie Cauley-Stein #33 of the Dallas Mavericks at Wells Fargo Center on February 25, 2021 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Cauley-Stein was here for only 2 games, for 6 total minutes, and he scored no points. Like Splitter, he never played another game in his career once the Sixers moved on. I am sensing a trend.

16) Paul Milsap

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA - FEBRUARY 15: Paul Millsap #8 of the Philadelphia 76ers shoots against Sam Hauser #30 of the Boston Celtics during the fourth quarter at Wells Fargo Center on February 15, 2022 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Milsap was thrown into the James Harden deal. But like several other guys we talked about, he struggled to get onto the floor. He did start one game, but he didn't make much of an impact, and wound up being mostly left out of the rotation altogether.

15) Mo Bamba

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA - DECEMBER 11: Mo Bamba #7 of the Philadelphia 76ers shoots over Patrick Baldwin Jr. #7 of the Washington Wizards during the fourth quarter at the Wells Fargo Center on December 11, 2023 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Can't get onto the floor, fails to make an impact when he does get on it. I feel like a need a keyboard shortcut to enter that exact phrase because I am writing it a lot.

14) Norvelle Pelle

CAMDEN, NEW JERSEY - SEPTEMBER 30: Norvel Pelle #14 of the Philadelphia 76ers poses for a portrait during Media Day at 76ers Training Complex on September 30, 2019 in Camden, New Jersey.

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Pelle was an interesting player. The athleticism was there. And he made some explosive plays. But those rare moments weren't enough to overcome his lack of offense and his poor instincts.

13) Charles Bassey

LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - JULY 10: Cam Thomas #24 of the Brooklyn Nets and Charles Bassey #23 of the Philadelphia 76ers vie for the ball during the 2022 NBA Summer League at the Thomas & Mack Center on July 10, 2022 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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Like Pelle, there were things to like about Bassey. Those things just weren't abundant enough. His offensive game just was not developed enough to be a realistic option when he was here. To his credit, he is still sticking around with the Spurs. But even now the game isn't good enough to be a backup on a playoff team.

12) Jahlil Okafor

INDIANAPOLIS, IN - NOVEMBER 09: Jahil Okafor #8 of the Philadelphia 76ers dribbles the ball during the game against the Indiana Pacers at Bankers Life Fieldhouse on November 9, 2016 in Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Okafor couldn't score outside of the paint, didn't play defense, and didn't rebound. So pretty much he had none of the qualities you want in a center. The Sixers held onto him for way too long until his value reach 0. They probably should have traded him after his productive rookie season. Or maybe the genius Sam Hinkie just shouldn't have drafted his 3rd center in 3 seasons.

11) Boban Marjanovic

PHILADELPHIA, PA - APRIL 23: Boban Marjanovic #51 of the Philadelphia 76ers runs up the court against the Brooklyn Nets in Game Five of Round One of the 2019 NBA Playoffs at the Wells Fargo Center on April 23, 2019 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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We loved Boban. But it was also very clear he was not good enough. He was pretty much unplayable against any center who can move outside of the paint. And while watching him sunk without jumping, and his relationship with Tobias, were all fun, he was not a very good backup center except against very specific opponents.

10) Kyle O'Quinn

LAKE BUENA VISTA, FLORIDA - AUGUST 11:  Kyle O'Quinn #9 of the Philadelphia 76ers looks for help as Deandre Ayton #22 of the Phoenix Suns defends during the first half of a NBA basketball game at Visa Athletic Center at ESPN Wide World Of Sports Complex on August 11, 2020 in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

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O'Quinn wasn't great, and he wasn't bad.  But he was part of that ill advised Horford season, and didn't see the floor too much with Horford taking a lot of the backup center minutes. But he was fine, just nothing special. He did not have a negative impact on the team like many of these other players, but he didn't have much of a positive one either. The Sixers were the last team he ever played

10) Amir Johnson

CAMDEN, NJ - SEPTEMBER 21: Amir Johnson #5 of the Philadelphia 76ers poses for a portrait during Media Day at the Sixers Training Complex on September 21, 2018 in Camden, New Jersey.

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Amir was actually solid when he first got here. In 2017-2018 he was a solid although unspectacular backup. But the next year was a bit of a mess. So he averages out to being the 10th best, or maybe the 11th worst. Whatever way you want to phrase it.

8) Tony Bradley

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - MARCH 21:  Tony Bradley #11 of the Philadelphia 76ers heads for the net as Reggie Bullock #25 of the New York Knicks defends in the first quarter at Madison Square Garden on March 21, 2021 in New York City.

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Sixers fans loved this guy. he had a few great games, then got traded, and some Sixers fans lost their mind. We got calls for another two years from fans complaining that he was traded. But look at the rest of his career, and you will see he is at best an adequate backup. But Sixers fans have been so starved for backup centers, they saw one guy have a few good games, and fell in love.

7) Montrezl Harrell

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - APRIL 09: Montrezl Harrell #5 of the Philadelphia 76ers looks on during the first half against the Brooklyn Nets at Barclays Center on April 09, 2023 in the Brooklyn borough of New York City.

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Another guy who couldn't get on the floor enough. They brought him in thinking he would at least bring a scoring threat, even if his defense was lacking. But he couldn't score enouhg, and his defense was lacking. But there was at least a semi-nice pick an roll game between him and Harden when he did play.

6) Paul Reed

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA - NOVEMBER 27: Paul Reed #44 of the Philadelphia 76ers reacts after scoring during the fourth quarter against the Los Angeles Lakers at the Wells Fargo Center on November 27, 2023 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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There is a lot that Paul Reed does well. He brings a ton of energy to the floor. And when you are just asking him to play 14 minutes behind Embiid, he gets the job done. But the problem is if you need to him to start in place of an injured Embiid. That is when some of his flaws have been exposed.

5) Richaun Holmes

LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 11:  Richaun Holmes #22 of the Philadelphia 76ers reacts during the NBA game between Boston Celtics and Philadelphia 76ers at The O2 Arena on January 11, 2018 in London, England.

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There was a ton to love about Holmes. He could make some incredible plays. The problem when he was here, was the simple plays. Too often he was out of position, or getting himself in trouble by trying to make one of those great plays. Still, his ability made him amongst the best backups Embiid ever had.

4) Nerlens Noel

BOSTON, MA - FEBRUARY 06:  Nerlens Noel #4 of the Philadelphia 76ers enters the huddle during a timeout during the second quarter against the Boston Celtics at TD Garden on February 6, 2015 in Boston, Massachusetts.

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Noel could defend his position at a very high level. At least in terms of being a backup center. The offensive game was not good enough. But it would be nice to have a guy you can put in for Embiid, and at least know the defense wont fall off too much.

3) Al Horford

LAKE BUENA VISTA, FLORIDA - AUGUST 05: Al Horford #42 of the Philadelphia 76ers plays against the Washington Wizards during the second half of an NBA basketball game at The Arena at ESPN Wide World Of Sports Complex on August 5, 2020 in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

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Horford time here was a disaster. That was not all his fault. The idea of putting him and Embiid on the floor together was flawed from the onset. But his effort and his play was also lacking in his time here. But as bad as it went, you cant deny Horford talent. And when he slid over to Center in place of Embiid he did a good job. It was just a poor fit and a bad roster that season.

2) Dwight Howard

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA - JUNE 08: Dwight Howard #39 of the Philadelphia 76ers celebrates during the fourth quarter against the Atlanta Hawks during Game Two of the Eastern Conference second round series at Wells Fargo Center on June 08, 2021 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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There were times when having Howard as the backup was fantastic. There were times it was not. But when it came down to the playoffs, he was not playing very well. It seemed like the perfect fit at the time, and in some games it was. But he let them down in the Hawks series.

1) Andre Drummond

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA - JANUARY 31: Andre Drummond #1 of the Philadelphia 76ers looks on against the Memphis Grizzlies  at Wells Fargo Center on January 31, 2022 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Andre Drummond was by far the bets backup Embiid has ever had. The key was he was too good to be a backup. But for whatever reason he was not getting much attention and free agency, and the Sixers were able to bring him in on the cheap. He had to be sent to Brooklyn in the James Harden trade, and Sixers fans have missed him ever since.

Tyrone Johnson is the host of “The Best Show Ever” on 97.5 The Fanatic. He has been with the station for the past 8 years. Before working at the Fanatic, Tyrone produced political radio, did financial reports, and was assistant chief engineer of another radio station. As a content creator for 97.5 The Fanatic, Tyrone writes articles on the Sixers, Eagles, Phillies, and Flyers.