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The Phillies Should Have Made That Corbin Burnes Trade

It has been a quiet off-season for the Phillies. As of now, it seems like they will be running back mostly roster. And on the one hand, this is the…

MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN - OCTOBER 03: Corbin Burnes #39 of the Milwaukee Brewers asks the umpire to appeal a check swing in the first inning against the Arizona Diamondbacks during Game One of the Wild Card Series at American Family Field on October 03, 2023 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN – OCTOBER 03: Corbin Burnes #39 of the Milwaukee Brewers asks the umpire to appeal a check swing in the first inning against the Arizona Diamondbacks during Game One of the Wild Card Series at American Family Field on October 03, 2023 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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It has been a quiet off-season for the Phillies. As of now, it seems like they will be running back mostly roster. And on the one hand, this is the roster that was a game away from the World Series last year, and most of the same guys who made it there the year before. On the other, they fell short in both those seasons. And they have also seen the Braves get a bit better, and the Dodgers get much better. Meanwhile, the Phillies have done nothing to keep up with them. And recently, they missed a chance to change that with Corbin Burnes.

The former Cy Young was traded to the Orioles on Thursday. They gave up their 6th best prospect in SS Joey Ortiz, relief pitcher D.L Hall, and one of their draft picks. Not an insignificant haul, but they got to hold onto all of their best prospects. Certainly worth it for the caliber of pitcher they got in return.

Were the Phillies ever in on him? Not that we've heard of. But should they have been? Absolutely. Come playoff time, the Phillies will have to go against the Dodgers' crazy lineup they have now added Shohei Ohtani and Teoscar Hernandez to. On top of that, their pitching rotation in the playoffs will now be Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Walker Buehler, Tyler Glasnow, and eventually Dustin May. Beating them is not going to be easy. And the Phillies need to bolster their roster if they are going to do it.

The Phillies Lost Their Big Advantage In The Playoffs

The Phillies have had an advantage in the last couple of seasons in the playoffs. They were the only team in the NL with a playoff rotation that went 3 pitchers deep. Wheeler, Nola, Suarez. No one in the NL came close to touching that in the past couple of seasons. That won't be the case this year. In fact the Dodgers can now 1-up them with a 4 pitcher rotation. It can go Wheeler vs Yamamoto, Nola vs Buehler, Suarez vs Glasnow, and then May vs... Cristopher Sanchez?

The Phillies just lost the primary advantage that kept them so competitive the past couple of seasons. The Phillies lineup is great. But so are the Dodgers and Braves. In fact on paper, you could argue those lineups are better. What has really separated the Phillies from them, and everyone else, is the massive advantage they had in terms of pitching. The Dodgers rotation was a mess last year. The Braves only had 1 reliable starter come playoff time. That could be true again for the Braves. But the Dodgers will likely come into the playoffs with the best rotation on paper. And it will only get worse a year later when they add Ohtani resumes pitching.

Corbin Burnes would have changed that though. If you went Wheeler, Burnes, Nola, and Suarez, it would beat any other rotation in baseball.

What Would a Phillies Trade Have Looked Like?

Joey Ortiz is the 63rd-ranked prospect in baseball as of now. The closest comparison for the Phillies is Aidan Miller, who is ranked two spots higher at 61. He is not as close to the majors as Ortiz is, but probably has a higher ceiling to make up for it. Thats probably who the Phillies would have given up as the main piece in any Burnes deal. Justin Crawford may have also done the trick. He is close to the majors, but ranked below Miller.

So would giving Miller up be worth it for Burnes? As high as his ceiling is, probably. He is 19 years old. At best, he will make it to the Majors in 2026. 2027 is a more realistic goal. 3 years from now. By then Harper will be 34, Turner and Nola 33, and Schwarber and Castellanos will be gone. Wheeler may be gone too, and even if they re-sign him, he will be 36. The point being, the Phillies' time to win, is now. We don't know what they will even look like in 2027, or if they will be capable of contending still. But right now, they can win a World Series. And with Burnes, they might stand a better chance than anyone in the NL to go to the World Series.

D.L. Hall is harder to find a comparison for. He is a former top-100 prospect, who has now moved to the bullpen. The Brewers may have asked for a guy like Mick Abel, who is currently a top-100 prospect. But even if that is the case, it still would have been worth it. With Brunes, you stand a better chance to win right now. Abel likely won't be part of any playoff rotation, even if he does make his debut this season.

Whatever the deal wound up being, they probably should have made it. Prospects are great. And you need to have some level of farm system to function. But proven players are better than prospects. We have seen so many prospects come and go. Kyle Drabek was supposed to be an Ace. Domonic Brown was supposed to be a superstar. Scott Kingery and Maikel Franco were once ranked prospects. None of them panned out. But we know who Burnes is. And we know he can help them win right now.

What is next for the Phillies?

Their options to improve this offseason have mostly disappeared. There are still pieces they can add that will round out the roster, but they have missed their chance at making a splash unless there is a player available no one is talking about. They could still add at the trade deadline. And maybe that is Dombrowski's plan. But as of now, their chances to win it this season are lower than they were to begin the offseason. They needed to shake things up a bit after how the season ended. And just bringing Nola back on a new contract, albiet one that is still team-friendly, is not enough. Not with everything the Dodgers did.

Corbin Burnes was a big chance for the Phillies to make that kind of move. The price the Orioles had to pay was not too unreasonable. They got a proven ace and held onto their best prospects. It is a move the Phillies should have made. Now we have to hope they can make that splash in July.

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